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Topic: "Developing the next generation science standards: A conversation with Achieve"

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MSPnet Academy Discussion
September 27 - October 11, 2011

Stephen Pruitt, Vice President for Content, Research & Development at Achieve

Work is progressing to develop the Next Generation Science Standards. This informational session will provide an update on the development of these standards, how science educators can be involved, and implications for science teaching and learning.

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Does criticism of CCSS-Math apply to the Science Framework

posted by: Charles Coble on 10/5/2011 7:17 am

I read, with interest, Grant Wiggins Commentary in the 8-27-11 issue of Education Week. Wiggins is quite critical of what he feels to be the overly abstract and not problem-centered focus of the math standards - as I understand his point. So, whatever assessments are finalized to measure student progress, they would still miss the mark in elevating greater student access to understanding math and how it applied to their world. As the Next Generation Standards are crafted from the Science Framework, will we face similar charges in the future or are we on track to achieve the goals of the Framework?

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assessments of what?

posted by: William Harper on 10/7/2011 1:53 pm

I want to ask a question that seems to me to be very important to answer before any national science assessments are developed (and I hope they are developed): Can we create useful national science assessments for k-12 students that are criterion referenced rather than norm referenced. My bias is that for studying the "process" as well as outcomes of k-12 education, criterion referenced assessment tools are much more useful-and valid. We don't need another norm referenced nationally used test that is, in essence, based on the normal distribution curve. When our teachers norm their course tests, we call it "curving" the test and teachers, students, parents, and employers are misled into believing that the "A" students actually know more than they really do.

Total Agreement with William Harper

posted by: Frank Gardella on 10/11/2011 1:34 pm

I believe William's ideas are right on the mark.

These assessments are important. Teachers are going to have the students take them seriously. They need to reflect what a student knows, not relative to a 'curving process.'

As my field is mathematics, I hope the mathematics committee is listening to the very precise and accurate message that Dr. Harper is sending.

Last day of discussion

posted by: Joni Falk on 10/10/2011 10:53 pm

Tomorrow, October 11th, is the last day of this discussion relating to the science standards. The webinar will remain archived on the site and will be available to both members and guests. Our thanks to each of you who took part in the webinar or in the follow-on discussion.

We invite those of you who are interested to attend our next webinar ---"Higher Education Engagement with K-12: Partnerships, Possibilities and Pitfalls" being offered by Nancy Shapiro, Associate Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs at the University System of Maryland. Members are encouraged to RSVP to gain early admission. Capacity is limited on a first-come, first-serve basis.

Again, our thanks for your participation which enriches the entire MSP learning community.

Joni